The Motivation for Knowing – TSK weeks 5-7

1. Do you find ways to know what you are experiencing without relying so strongly on the structure of perceiver and perceived?
2. What happens if you let sense experience unfold, but deliberately try to dissociate from the sense that you are the one having the experience?
3. When polar knowledge arises, try to cut it off before it leads to identification (descriptive knowledge) For instance, a stuffy nose and congestion in the chest may confirm that you now have a cold. But they may also just be the experience of a stuffy nose and congestion in the chest.
My Practice Notes on exercise 2 above:
I love a dramatic sky -- undulating, dark-metal clouds that seem supported by white billows, like white smoke hugging the horizon; rain hissing, leafless branches scratching and scraping, pines a waving -- warm and cozy observer, observing a gray day world.
I ask, "Where's the self?" Suddenly, I'm self-conscious, aware of a cozy, warm feeling at odds with what's out there. I'm aware of a flurry of action from nowhere, separate from what's felt here and seen their, as I catch myself narrating what's being observed as moments pass. I'm naming and ordering the words, evaluating their order and position, testing what is felt, determining if the feeling experienced is good and comforting, if it engenders the desire to prolong and continue, and so I'm writing it in my head, to attempt to capture.
So the answer to my question seems to be, "I don't know where the self is, but I am sensing things." I recognized a process going on, but see no one orchestrating this unfolding, yet I feel sensory input. I notice that input, (sound, visual, tactile, etc.) is not fixed, it can't be held. It's there for a fraction of an instant and wiped or replaced with different input, different emphasis, that seems, at first not connected, then connected along a line, like the sound of a broken record, there's a gap or discontinuity between the next continuous parts, as I recall what I can of the previous instant. I know the readings say the memory provides the continuity for our conventional understanding, but watching closely like this, I also see gaps, the self activity and moments fade in and out, incomplete in there formations, there are shadows in my depth, even in the midst of this beautiful scene -- everything is shifting.
But then the self-process asserts and I remember some of the impressions from the prior moment, and I point to that concept as me, "There I am." But wait, that's an image of what I was, not what is now. I keep trying to catch myself this way, like a dog chasing his tail, round and round...
And I realized, that moment at the beginning, of just 'loving the dramatic sky,' there was no narrator, or concept of an objective self, I hadn't recognized myself as perceiver yet, until I divided into a warm and cozy bystander. The 'self-process' of narrating, interpreting, and looking back on a conceptual self hadn't yet started to follow the initial perception. That instant of love and connection with what was suddenly seen was almost infinitesimal and intimate. Then, I isolated myself, while looking to bridge the gap of my isolation - attempting to complete the circle of conventional connect.
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For a deeper understanding, we are instructed in the book, Love of Knowledge:
"The world we know is made up of objects appearing in space and events occurring in time. To understand the structure of conventional knowledge, space and time themselves will make a good starting point, for the structures that space allows and the patterns that time presents appear to be decisive for all knowing.
Physical objects appear in space, and it seems that without space they could neither appear nor exist. As the absence of what 'exists', space might be considered 'non-existent', and yet if space did not exist in some sense, objects could not exist either. This paradox, however, is not an issue for conventional understanding, for from the ordinary perspective space is simply irrelevant, and so 'disappears' from view.
Just as space is the empty container for what is real, so time is the domain within which events occur. 'Time' 'measures out' or 'distributes', separating one event from another and making it possible to establish order.
For human being, which establishes itself as real through occupying space and taking up time, knowledge is based on the senses. It arises as the sensory faculties make contact with the things that appear in space and the events that occur in time. The resulting sensory data provide the basis upon which interpretation and other forms of knowing can then be constructed." pp.99-100
"In the act of observing on which temporally situated knowledge depends, the possible modes of being appear to be divided into two aspects or poles. At one pole is the 'perceiver', who has the capacity for knowing and experiencing. At the other pole is 'objective reality', which has the capacity for being known 'as an object'.
The structure of division and polarity that operates in polar knowledge means that for the perceiver, 'isolation' and 'no-knowledge' take priority over knowing. At the outset, nothing is known. A 'knowledge gap' separates 'subject' and 'object', 'perceiver' and 'perceived'. Knowing arises when knowledge is somehow transported across this 'gap', ending the original isolation of the two poles.
The dualistic structure of observation inherent in 'subject' and 'object' finds further expression in the distinction between 'here' and 'there'. The knowing capacity resides 'here'; the known content resides 'there'."
The readings go on to say that in our conventional way of dualistic knowing the 'perceiver' occupies the present while the content of perception is conceptual, and thus occupies or appears in memory or the past. And so what is perceived is the object as it appeared in the previous moment.
"The polarities 'here/there' and 'now/then' are basic to standard observation. The separation between here and there - the expression of the 'knowledge gap' in conventional, extended space - exhibits itself as distance. The separation between 'now' and 'then' - the expression in conventional, linear time of the primacy of 'no-knowledge' - presents itself as the distinction separating 'perceived' past from 'experienced' present..." p.101-102
What motivates the act of knowing - the drive to bridge the 'knowledge gap'?
The source of this movement lies in another fundamental polarity: that between 'self' and 'world'. The self 'knows' a world that takes shape around the self in the act of being known. Only by moving out from the central 'here/now' to incorporate as known the content of 'there/then' can the self determine the identities and assign the meanings that together make up this 'known world'. Knowledge in this sense is the outcome of the self's response to its original isolation.
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PRACTICE NOTES TABLE OF CONTENTS
Fall Session - "Self in Question"
September 27th - December 13, 2009
Davidu
1. The Self In Question - TSK Week 1
2. The Self In Question - TSK weeks 2-3
3. The Motivation for Knowing - TSK weeks 5-7
starlight
1. The Queen and 'I' - TSK 1
2. Tyranny of I's...TSK wk 3
3. Binding Through Identity...TSK wk 4...
4. A World Given...tsk wk 5...
5. Forgetting to Remember...TSK wk 6 & 7...
Balder

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